Gore's Message To Climate Change Skeptics »
Posted by: TimALoftis 4 months, 3 weeks ago126 Comments Report this Story
Tells 60 Minutes That Doubting Global Warming Is Manmade Is Akin To Believing Earth Is Flat
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ETproductions4 months, 3 weeks ago
Al Gore says, "Doubting Global Warming Is Manmade Is Akin To Believing Earth Is Flat."
Good turn of phrase, ans very true. There is such a wealth of evidence now that the only way to miss it is to simply refuse to look.
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TimALoftis4 months, 3 weeks ago
The interview with former Vice President Al Gore can be seen this Sunday evening on 60 minutes (CBS)
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DanmLiberals4 months, 3 weeks ago
So ice melting after an ice age shouldnt be happening? I guess places like Yosemite which was formed by ice glaciers and eventually melted without humans, shouldn't leave you to believe that the world changes and some ice melts and some doesn't. And what about the growing glaciers in Alaska? did Gore miss those?
Ya I think the .8% of C02 that we pump in the atmosphere can have an effect. But the fact is that the earth is warming AND cooling no matter what we do.
Al Gore flying around in Jets and doing interviews on shows that use gas as energy is a little hypocritical. Why doesn't he just go live in Ethiopia so we dont have to hear from this weasel anymore.
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airglide4 months, 3 weeks ago
ETproductions
Remember one thing. There was a time when only one person thought the earth was round. There was such a wealth of evidence...
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libsRfunny4 months, 3 weeks ago
"Al Gore says, 'Doubting Global Warming Is Manmade Is Akin To Believing Earth Is Flat.'
"Good turn of phrase, ans very true. There is such a wealth of evidence now that the only way to miss it is to simply refuse to look."
Hardly. Plenty of legitimate science proving contrary to the Church of Global Warming. One need only look and it is there. But, why look when you have boobs like the Gore-acle pouring Kool-Aid down your throats? It's so much easier to just "believe in Al."
Polar caps are growing, as are many glaciers in the world, many peer-reviewed scientific studies show global warming in fact has stopped, and man's total contribution of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 3 percent of the total. The problem with the Church of Global Warming is its believers refuse to acknowledge the alternative, and more likely, explanations, such as sun intensity.
Also, why did Gore recommend AGAINST signing on to Kyoto when he headed the US delegation?
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djn3nunez34 months, 3 weeks ago
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-...
"The most commonly cited study by skeptics is a study by scientists from Finland and Germany that finds the sun has been more active in the last 60 years than anytime in the past 1150 years (Usoskin 2005). They also found temperatures closely correlate to solar activity.
However, a crucial finding of the study was the correlation between solar activity and temperature ended around 1975. At that point, temperatures rose while solar activity stayed level. This led them to conclude "during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09...
"Sunspots alter the amount of energy Earth gets from the sun, but not enough to impact global climate change, a new study suggests."
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mivan44 months, 3 weeks ago
Well AlGore must know something my brother doesn't. My brother graduated from the 3rd rated Meteorologist College in the country, and works for the E.P.A. He says it is a HOAX all of his Alumni say its A HOAX all of his past professors say its a HOAX all of who are Meteorologists, but somehow The Goracle who is non of these knows all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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BB644 months, 3 weeks ago
ET What evidence. I don't mean your computer mock ups. They've never taken into account weather change. According to Fat Al, we're supposed to be in the midst of a warming period. I live in Milwaukee. Perhaps his fatness would like to join me in clearing the evidence of "global warming" from my drive. We've had over 100" of snow this year and we're over 10 degrees below the norm. That tells me he's not as smart as he'd like you to believe. Then again, this is the same guy who managed to take bribes from Buddhist monks while peeing in the restroom, invented the internet and managed to be the reason for Love story. Al is a charlatan and his religion of global warming is a lie.
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djn3nunez34 months, 3 weeks ago
hahahaha umm ha. I love it. Every winter we hear it. If there's global warming how come the winters are still so cold!
Well, I live in SE Texas and it's been a very warm winter about 10 degrees above average.
Lets wait and see how much the northern polar ice cap melts this summer. I've read that the CO2 has more of an effect in the dryer climates up there, so lets see if the ice melts further than it did last summer.
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ETproductions4 months, 3 weeks ago
Evidence? http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
When you add heat to a system, it works much like heating a pot of water with a bunch of beads that have a density equal to the water. Before turning on the heat, the beads float quietly at all levels in the pot, pretty evenly dispersed and barely moving. But turn on the heat under the pot and slowly, the beads come to life. They begin to congregate and swirl about. That is the phase we are in. The swirling produces extremes of all kinds of weather. Hot and cold. Drought and flood. Rain and snow. Cyclone and calm. We are seeing all of that.
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Mdiar4 months, 3 weeks ago
Well gama... it may be apt. But its not winning these people over that he needs to convince, now is it? Gore is doing more harm then good with statements like this. He should consider a run for a Senate seat or try to become a "dark horse" of sorts for the Presidency if he really wishes to change policy in any way.
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gamahuche4 months, 3 weeks ago
On one level you're absolutely right [btw good to CU again, haven't noticed you around in a while].
But I would imagine his patience is stretched close to breaking point at the obtuseness of the deniers.
Maybe that makes him a fallible human being but I wouldn't blame him for that.
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kboy4 months, 3 weeks ago
Al seems to forget that this is not the internet he invented. British Courts have already ruled against his claims. He is free to put his information out for peer review, but he cannot just shout down his detractors. Bad science is junk science.
The drooling over a carbon tax needs to go elsewhere. Oh yea Al, start living as green as you feel everyone else needs to live.
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KISA452a4 months, 3 weeks ago
Don't worry. Gore likes to ignore the fact that there is still debate (shown here on Propeller previously) and, as is the Democratic philosophy, demand command and control of the everyone. Well, we have a story to "outrage" us about a gay guy not able to change their last name (silly ruling, to be sure), but having the government control the temp in your house, the car you drive, the lighbulbs you use, taking your money to pay for various things is not intrusive...
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Bkumm4 months, 3 weeks ago
Two things. One, Al Gore never claimed to have invented the Internet. Just as with denying human contribution to global warming, you can keep saying it, but that doesn't make it so.
Secondly, the British Court did not rule against global warming. That would be like the Supreme Court saying that you can't teach chemistry. What they said was that you couldn't just say one side of the issue using tax dollars. Not quite the same thing.
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PapaWolf4 months, 3 weeks ago
kboy
>>Al seems to forget that this is not the internet he invented.
Still throwing this BS out. Gore NEVER said he created the internet. If you'd look it up instead of listening to idiots like Rush, W & all the other fools who twisted his words, you'd see that he said that his support while in congress was a driving force behind the development of the internet.
Your parroting that same, tired, lame line about the internet just renders the rest of your statement irrelevant.
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tbkennedy534 months, 3 weeks ago
The NPR story recently on these posts indicated that the 2000 temperature robots indicate there is no upward movement of temperature. They also said there is still much research to be completed before it's validated that global warming is a fact. So saying either side correct is premature but worth more research.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st...
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nostalgia4 months, 3 weeks ago
Or this story:
Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs
The head of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) has actually acknowledged it. He talks about the apparent plateau in temperatures so far this century. So he recognises that in this century, over the past eight years, temperatures have plateaued ... This is not what you'd expect, as I said, because if carbon dioxide is driving temperature then you'd expect that, given carbon dioxide levels have been continuing to increase, temperatures should be going up ... So (it's) very unexpected, not something that's being discussed. It should be being discussed, though, because it's very significant."
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nostalgia4 months, 3 weeks ago
NASA's Aqua satellite - What all the climate models suggest is that, when you've got warming from additional CO2, this will result in increased water vapour, so you're going to get a positive feedback. That's what the models have been indicating. What this great data from the NASA Aqua satellite ... (is) actually showing is just the opposite, that with a little bit of warming, weather processes are compensating, so they're actually limiting the greenhouse effect and you're getting a negative rather than a positive feedback."
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CRYMTYPHON4 months, 3 weeks ago
I would like to point out that the so-called 'round-earth theory' is controversial, as there are still people who say that the world is flat.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
And their arguments are surprisingly similiar to the arguments of global warming skeptics;
1) a conspiracy keeps experts from speaking the truth
2) data is faked, misinterpreted or contrary to common sense.
3) you don't need fancy science to tell you what you can see from your front yard.
I am waiting to see science classes teach the controversy.
Seriously, people will always argue. If money is involved (as with global warming) there will never be full agreement. Gore is right to dismiss them; the desire to argue does not equate to valid argumentation.
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PapaWolf4 months, 3 weeks ago
Speaking of NASA, how about looking at http://www.democracynow.org/2008/3/21/censoring...
This is a 3/21/08 interview w/Dr. James Hansen who this administration has been trying to gag for years. He's one of the leading climatological researchers at NASA.
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Global_Warmer4 months, 3 weeks ago
Tessylo said: "Spare me sockpuppet. What the hell are you talking about? Are you a Dick Cheney supporter? Well guess what? He doesn't give a ****** about you.
Whatever that means, lol.
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Mdiar4 months, 3 weeks ago
Your right Tessy, the other half of the spectrum which must be convinced for anything to get done will deny this. Of course they will when its Al Gore saying it. Gore needs to remove himself from this debate for the good of the debate. He can effect more change if he ran for a seat in the Senate somewhere then if he went around the world another two times convincing people that, for the most part, are already convinced. Gore is now at a point where he loses support more then he gains it with this. Not to attack Gore, I find it good that he deals with it :P But he can do alot more then he's doing if he'd run for a Senate seat and considered another run for President. Right now all he can do is make the right wing even harder to convince and without them its alot harder to get stuff done.
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TrueProgressive4 months, 3 weeks ago
Hey KISA452a, your last post was very stupid. No hypocrisy exists in supporting government regulation of asbestos, DDT, dioxin, lead based paint, etc, while opposing government involvement in private adult matters. Use of the foregoing substances affects my life (and yours) in myriad ways, mostly negative or dangerous. In contrast, whether two adults, gay or straight, want to structure their joint lives by calling hemselves "married" doesn't affect my or your life one damn bit, and is of no rational or principled concern to me, you or any of the other moronic regressives on this thread.
So tell me again KISA, what are your facts for a flat world?
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Cityslicker4 months, 3 weeks ago
"Step right up folks get your magic elixir (carbon credits) here , guaranteed to cure what ever ailments you have ."
Al (Snake Oil Peddler) Gore .
Keep your stick on the ice !
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simonsez4 months, 3 weeks ago
The scientific words of GW: Likely, very likely, reasonably, could, may, might, eventually, inconclusive, possibly, very possibly, feasible, partially, dangerous, catastrophic, crisis.
But now it's "climate change" because it might not be warming. It might actually be getting cooler. If CO2 causes warming, how can it be getting cooler? A problem for man-made and for carbon credits and footprints and all the other cute words they you to scr*w us.
AS I said before, air is the only thing left that is free in this world, but soon we'll be paying for it. The only good thing about it is that I will get to hear you sophisticated "round earthers" complainging about it in 4-5 years.
"Be careful what you wish for", as they say.
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